| Pages in topic: [1 2] > | Remaining segments after cleaning Thread poster: Fernando Toledo
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Hallo,
After I have cleaned a doc, still are segments inside wit the source segment. By the cleaning WB said that some start marks are missing.
I have not notice it by the translation (it is a big doc with references, TOC, images...)
I try to repair it, change 1000 things without success.
Now I want to delete all the source parts with search&replace from Word. All this source segments are underlined with points.
My question is which mark (format) is t... See more Hallo,
After I have cleaned a doc, still are segments inside wit the source segment. By the cleaning WB said that some start marks are missing.
I have not notice it by the translation (it is a big doc with references, TOC, images...)
I try to repair it, change 1000 things without success.
Now I want to delete all the source parts with search&replace from Word. All this source segments are underlined with points.
My question is which mark (format) is this? I need to insert this format to make a replacement of all this sentences with a Space
Thanks
Trados 6.5.5.438
Word 2003
[Edited at 2005-11-09 12:42] ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Manual cleanup | Nov 9, 2005 |
Manual cleanup of the Word document - find and replace all hidden characters with nothing.
How to do it step by step:
1. Tools -> options -> [display tab] check the "hidden text" or "all" formatting marks checkbox.
2. Then Find and Replace:
Press "more".
For "find" box press format -> font -> check "hidden"
Then enter in the "find what?" line "^?" (without the ")
Make sure the "Replace with:" Box is empty.
... See more Manual cleanup of the Word document - find and replace all hidden characters with nothing.
How to do it step by step:
1. Tools -> options -> [display tab] check the "hidden text" or "all" formatting marks checkbox.
2. Then Find and Replace:
Press "more".
For "find" box press format -> font -> check "hidden"
Then enter in the "find what?" line "^?" (without the ")
Make sure the "Replace with:" Box is empty.
Press "Replace all".
All Trados hidden characters should disappear.
The only exception is in some title rows of tables, where the source text may not have been hidden and will remain.
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| | | | RWSTranslati (X)
Germany
Local time: 01:01
German to English
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| Deleting of hiffen text | Nov 9, 2005 |
Hello,
if you manual delete all hidden text, you maybe will delete other hidden texts too (maybe index entries).
Hans
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Lior Bar-On wrote:
Manual cleanup of the Word document - find and replace all hidden characters with nothing.
How to do it step by step:
1. Tools -> options -> ...
Good luck.
Thank you for the help, now the document is a little bit better but still having to much garbage ;(
Some Trados marks has "normal" fonts like the text. A disaster!
What can I have missing?
I can see all the Hidden text but i can not translate some sentences till I check "Field Codes" in the options, after that I can translate everything and the references contained are simply copy from source to target, but by cleaning WB says that some start tags are missing ????
Thank you anyway
things like
»{0>Bild 6.10:
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Sonja Tomaskovic (X) 
Germany
Local time: 01:01
English to German
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| | I just try but | Nov 9, 2005 |
RtfCleaner says Error removing hidden text ;(
Thks anyway
| | | | Jo Macdonald
Spain
Local time: 01:01
Member (2005)
Italian to English
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| Translate again | Nov 9, 2005 |
Hi Toledo,
Nope, I don't mean write the whole thing again but if nearly all of the translation was confirmed to Trados why don't you just translate a copy of the original with the TM you created?
About missing segement marks, what you can try next time is copy a good pair and paste it next to the damaged segment then copy paste the text into the new segment.
To do this you'll have to have Display Hidden Text active.
Mac
| | | | | In document are references like | Nov 9, 2005 |
Bausteintypen eines Projekts befinden sich im Ordner „Bausteine“, wie in Bild 6.1 gezeigt.
where "Bild 6.1" is a reference (grey) when I come to this sentence Trados stop and Worbench says: 33353 end of the paragraf not found.
So I have to divided it as:
Bausteintypen eines Projekts befinden sich im Ordner „Bausteine“, wie in
Bild 6.1
gezeigt.
and spring over Bild 6.1
If I make "Returns" bef... See more Bausteintypen eines Projekts befinden sich im Ordner „Bausteine“, wie in Bild 6.1 gezeigt.
where "Bild 6.1" is a reference (grey) when I come to this sentence Trados stop and Worbench says: 33353 end of the paragraf not found.
So I have to divided it as:
Bausteintypen eines Projekts befinden sich im Ordner „Bausteine“, wie in
Bild 6.1
gezeigt.
and spring over Bild 6.1
If I make "Returns" before and after this references I can translate but it is a big document and the sentences are so cut (mutilated) and it is a lot of work to translate sentences where the verb is in an other place (German)
[Edited at 2005-11-09 13:56]
[Edited at 2005-11-09 13:58] ▲ Collapse
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Hi Toledo,
Did you try with the Word-macro tw4winclean ? It normally works well.
Sylvain
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Sylvain Leray wrote:
Hi Toledo,
Did you try with the Word-macro tw4winclean ? It normally works well.
Sylvain
It clean what can be cleaned but the other segments (with the references) are still "Kaputt"
I try some of the Macros, like prepare DCF, subsegments, and some others but nothing.
So I resume.
If a check "Fields codes" in the View options in Word I can translate all, I see the references number into brackets (I copy&paste it manually into the target segment) and all seems to be good, but by cleaning WB says NO! "missing start tags in some segments (the segments with references)
If I do not check this field, Trados stop in each segment that contain a reference. Placing a paragraph mark before this sentences do not help anyway.
only dividing the sentences, separating this references as individual paragraphs help but I hope there is another way or?
[Edited at 2005-11-10 08:36]
[Edited at 2005-11-10 15:50]
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Jo Macdonald wrote:
Hi Toledo,
Nope, I don't mean write the whole thing again but if nearly all of the translation was confirmed to Trados why don't you just translate a copy of the original with the TM you created?
I would do the same thing!
If you experience this kind of problem before cleaning the document, you can always try to use "Fix Document" in the TRADOS menu in Word.
Regards,
Barbara
| | | | | It is not so simple | Nov 10, 2005 |
Barbara Østergaard wrote:
Jo Macdonald wrote:
Hi Toledo,
Nope, I don't mean write the whole thing again but if nearly all of the translation was confirmed to Trados why don't you just translate a copy of the original with the TM you created?
I would do the same thing!
If you experience this kind of problem before cleaning the document, you can always try to use "Fix Document" in the TRADOS menu in Word.
Regards,
Barbara
Hi,
AS I said all TUs containing references (index) are korrupt, can not be cleaned, normally if there is a index inside a TU, Trados open a TU (subsegement) inside this TU, but in my case, Trados stop translating and only over the workaround "Field Codes" activ can I open it but the translation can later not be cleaned.
Creating a copy of the original is not satisfactory
It is a big manual with Table of Contains, images , references to the images and so.
Of course I tried the repair it with the funtion "Fix Document", Niente, Nada
Thks
[Edited at 2005-11-10 15:51]
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| Bookmark handler ? | Nov 10, 2005 |
Hi again Toledo,
Did you apply the Trados Bookmark Handler before translating? This kind of problem (like Trados codes appearing in normal font or corrupt segments) can often be prevented with the BH...
I always use it now when I have a document like yours (with TOC and a lot of internal cross-references and bookmarks), and it works quite good...
Sylvain
| | | | | I think this is the key | Nov 10, 2005 |
Sylvain Leray wrote:
Hi again Toledo,
Did you apply the Trados Bookmark Handler before translating? This kind of problem (like Trados codes appearing in normal font or corrupt segments) can often be prevented with the BH...
I always use it now when I have a document like yours (with TOC and a lot of internal cross-references and bookmarks), and it works quite good...
Sylvain
Thanks, I knew this template but forgot it completely, I will give it a try later.
Thks!
Toledo
| | | | Angus Woo
Local time: 07:01
Chinese to English
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| Let's start from the basics | Nov 11, 2005 |
First of all, do you still have the original un-translated file?
The next question is: is the TM you created for this particular project corrupted?
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