Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Vulgärdichtung
English translation:
popular poetry
Added to glossary by
Stephen Old
Aug 30, 2017 17:35
6 yrs ago
German term
Vulgärdichtung
German to English
Art/Literary
Poetry & Literature
Japanese haiku
This passage describes how the haiku arose from the renga. I need an elegant and accurate term for this final wordl Unter der Prämisse, die strengen Normen des renga zu lockern und eine volksnahe Dichtung zu schaffen, konzipierten verschiedene, sich ablösende Schulen eine Form von Vulgärdichtung,
Proposed translations
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3 +2 | popular poetry | Kim Metzger |
3 +1 | common/vulgar verse | Ramey Rieger (X) |
3 | crude poetry | Michael Martin, MA |
3 | plebeian poetry | Martin Ris |
3 | poetry for the common man | Martin Ris |
2 | rough-and-tumble poetry | gangels (X) |
Proposed translations
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24 mins
Selected
popular poetry
In his E. J. Pratt lecture "Silence In the Sea," critic Northrop Frye argued that Service's verse was not "serious poetry," but something else he called "popular poetry": "the idioms of popular and serious poetry remain inexorably distinct." Popular poems, he thought, "preserve a surface of explicit statement" – either being "proverbial, like Kipling's 'If' or Longfellow's 'Song of Life' or Burns's 'For A' That'," or dealing in "conventionally poetic themes, like the pastoral themes of James Whitcomb Riley, or the adventurous themes of Robert Service." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_W._Service
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: It means the same as "volksnahe Dichtung" earlier in the sentence, and I would take out the repetition.
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Anne Schulz
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks again Kim,for reminding me of what I already knew! This term can describe a more accessible (volksnahe) form of poetry, compared to that which would be enjoyed at a royal court in the middle Ages. "
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8 mins
common/vulgar verse
Could work
Peer comment(s):
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Helen Shiner
: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=u9xBdbdD944C&pg=PT43&lpg... // No! ;)
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It was certainly a step down for the purists! Ever written haiku? It's an amazing challenge!
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7 hrs
rough-and-tumble poetry
may be
8 hrs
crude poetry
A kind of crude poetry perhaps?
19 hrs
plebeian poetry
I think the idea is a poetry for the people, the commoner, rather than the educated class. Plebeian conveys that.
Crude or vulgar poetry implies that the poetry itself is crude or vulgar, rather than who it's for.
Popular seems to work as well.
Crude or vulgar poetry implies that the poetry itself is crude or vulgar, rather than who it's for.
Popular seems to work as well.
19 hrs
poetry for the common man
Again, expressing my sense that this goes after who the poetry is for.
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